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03 February 2009 @ 11:07 pm
Update. Stunned update.  
Okay, that took my breath away. igorsanchez just posted to tnh's livejournal. He hadn't been banned.

Let us review. She deleted everything spiralsheep said, down to and including her one word "Okay" answer. She deleted and banned me for this:

 Patrick said stupid shit, was called out on it, and stomped off in a
 sulk. That's his right, but I'm finding all the self-dramatization about
 it pretty shameful. And it gets worse every round; the important thing,
 oh the always important thing is the hurt feelings of white people.

 If pnh wanted to justify why the PoCs involved were "less intelligent
 that others" he damn well better back it up with intelligent analysis. He
 didn't. Instead it was all about how people were being mean to him.

She banned perhaps a dozen other people, ranging from scrupulously polite to harsh. But Igor? Igor she was perfect happy to have in her journal, posting things like this (and this is only a sampling):

Highlight to see.

  • Subject: shut up.
    cant say nuthin bad bout niggers.
    dont worry, we have a nigger pres, cant shiop u all back to africa like
     we should.

  • hahaha "springboard for discussion?"
     what are you, some jew dyke

  •  y the fuck should anyone listen to you you stupid fat nigger

  •  die feminazi bitch!


Oh, I guess I shouldn't count the last one, since tnh has already said it is a wonderful word, worthy of roses.

The only difference? igorsanchez was spewing this stuff against her "enemies". The people that were in her head a legion of sockpuppets foisted against her by a master troll.

I'm going to say it again: Teresa Nielsen Hayden is fucked in the goddamn head.
Kazkazaera on February 4th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
...I don't follow her on LJ and have very little idea of what's going on, but man. I used to enjoy reading Making Light.
Lauratavella on February 4th, 2009 05:51 pm (UTC)
Me too. Hell, I've "known" her, in the sense of moving in the same internet spaces with her and exchanging the occasional communication, for at least a decade, maybe as much as two. And I generally liked and admired her -- sure, she could be kind of smug and arrogant, but so could I (oh, so could I.)

It's a really sickening, bitter disappointment.
Kazkazaera on February 4th, 2009 07:00 pm (UTC)
To tell the truth, I think I kind of looked up to her a little. In the sense of - look, here is someone who is *in* the whole professional writing scene and does not think fanfic is the scum of the earth! Especially early on in my fanficcing career that was very reassuring, and I was so happy reading her thread about how fanfic is a totally natural, etc. thing. Started following ML after that and... this really hurts. I wish I could ignore this and pretend she's still the person I really admired, but that would just be willful ignorance and damnit.

Am reading some of the stuff now and... god. God.